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The Extramilest Podcast

Feb 17, 2023

This is one of my favorite interviews I’ve ever done. Jimmy Dean Freeman and his wife Kate Martini Freeman were my first running coaches in 2013 and 2014. Combined they have coached more than 2000 athletes over the past 20 years, over all distances from 5k, 10k and half marathon, to full marathon and ultra distances. 

Watch the full YouTube interview at:


  • 0:00 start video
  • 8:30 Jimmy’s background as a runner, his first 10K event at 9 years old.
  • 12:35 Favorite; track, treadmill, trail, road?
  • 15:30 Jimmy’s coaching history
  • 19:00 Process orientation vs. outcome orientation
  • 21:05 The War Room, race strategy
  • 24:00 Discomfort levels and how quickly things can turn
  • 25:55 Finding flow in racing and in daily life
  • 33:40 The glass ceiling
  • 45:00 Going after BIG goals
  • 49:30 Injury and form dysfunction
  • 52:25 Running relaxed, being present
  • 53:10 When do you back off in training?
  • 55:55 Best ways to recover
  • 58:40 A Heart Rate Monitor and training without one
  • 1:01:25 Dealing with colds and illness. Below the neck “rule”
  • 1:07:05 Nailing your pre race taper
  • 1:09:40 Recovery based on age and gender
  • 1:12:55 Why Jimmy is a running coach?
  • 1:14:50 Learning from mistakes (the hard way)
  • 1:18:27 Closing thoughts

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Jimmy is known for getting inside his athletes' heads and his emphasis on training the mind like a muscle. Since 2002, he has coached more than a two-thousand adults (and young people) to run further and run more efficiently by creating an uplifting environment to propel people to break through self-imposed glass ceilings. Jimmy has been running competitively for 30 years (200+ races, including the Angeles Crest 100, the Western States 100 and Badwater 135) and has over 14 years of coaching experience tackling ultra endurance over the last decade. He has helped many runners & athletes to complete their first ultra races and 100 milers, and has personally completed 28+ races of 50 miles (or further) while failing to finish 5 races over that stretch. Personal bests include a 1:18 Half Marathon, 2:56 Marathon, 3:56 50k, 7:07 50 miler & 17:34 100 miler. Jimmy is also the father of two kids who can out-endurance him any day.

Jimmy Dean Freeman and his wife Kate Martini Freeman coached me, Floris Gierman, for several seasons when I started running more serious in 2013. They are both incredible runners and coaches at








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ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW: A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete. More info about our running coaching program can be found at


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